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« on: January 20, 2007, 10:33:48 AM »

sending down an icy blast from Canada (along with 50+ mile an hour winds) I've been relegated to playing with monochrome conversions of old images. Tongue

Actually it started over a week ago but it's more fun to blame someone for my weather predicament. Grin Roll Eyes

Anyway, if you'd be interested in taking a look at some of the results you can check them out here. Feel free to tear 'em up, honest feedback is always appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2007, 11:15:57 AM »

As always, they are GREAT Mike. I should play with B&W once and a while.

I love the lighthouse! I also love the one with the bench. I wish it was cropped tighter though. Would like to see some of the surroundings but not have my eyes hunt too much for the focal point.

Nice work!
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2007, 02:23:31 PM »

Thanks for looking Gail.
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Would like to see some of the surroundings but not have my eyes hunt too much for the focal point.

I understand, I think my problem is that, as my creation, my eyes jump immediately to the focal point and don't go through the searching unfamiliar eyes might. I'll have to work on viewing from the other side. Wink
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2007, 03:31:48 AM »

Hi Mike, I'm so happy to see these. To me, black & white, moreso than color, is preferred for conveying mood and texture. Color, often, is so distracting that one can miss these things in an image.

You did a great job at converting the waterfall shots. The power of the shadows contrast nicely with the brilliance of the flowing water. Lovely!

I wonder how "Portland Head" would look applying a red filter to darken the blue sky (I'm assuming it was blue) and pop out that cloud a little more before BW conversion .....
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2007, 05:06:39 AM »

Thanks for taking the time to look Deb, I appreciate the feedback. I tried each of these with several conversions and went with the one I felt "fit" each one. Of course tomorrow it might be a different look that works. Tongue
Here's a different version of Portland Head Light without the sepia toning and with red filtering (larger version linked).

I actually tried two entirely different (red filter) conversions with virtually no difference in results (one was ever so slightly lighter). Oddly, with this image the cloud didn't seem to change much while with a couple of other images taken of the same subject I was able to pull a little more out of the cloud.
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2007, 03:23:19 PM »

Hi there, how strange, I don't see any difference in tonal representation. I would have expected to see an obvious difference. Hmmmmmmm ...... How about uploading the color image. Let's play ....  Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2007, 01:01:22 AM »

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Soon as I get home this afternoon, I'd love to see what you can pull out of it. Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2007, 03:24:24 AM »

Great! This will be fun! I'll look for it this evening.  Cheesy
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2007, 05:24:29 AM »

Sorry I could not log in before to say Hey! don't blame ME! Tongue

Great work Mike. I think for the water shots, those that have a white texture (foam or water cascading) come up better. I love the architecture shots in general, and how you sometimes use sepia, sometimes B&W, and sometimes other tones. Your skills at composition always impress me! And you've given me a urge to revisit some of my pics to see how monochrome can improve them. I have a few in mind. I won't be able to do anything tonight, but later this week I'll try to upload a few.
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2007, 06:25:46 AM »

Thanks Bernard, I think every image needs something a little different to help it stand out and as I said earlier it might change (depending on mood). I also don't think that monochrome necessarily works for everything but in the future I'll probably check as I review just in case. Wink
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2007, 11:58:25 AM »

Sorry Deb, I stopped to shoot some frozen waterfalls on the way home. Wink

Here's the color version

Let me know if bigger would be better to work with. Can't wait to see the results.
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2007, 01:41:41 PM »

Oh boy! Frozen waterfall! I can't wait to see them!

I snagged your color photo and will play with it. What fun! The size you provided is fine.  Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2007, 01:53:49 PM »

Sneak peak Deb, it's a bit on the different side but for some reason I think it's the best one I got. > Wish I had a chainsaw  Wink Grin
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2007, 02:28:49 PM »

That's gorgeous! As for the chainsaw, ha, ha, ha!!! thanks to that downed tree, small critters have a way over the creek.  Grin And, it makes a nice natural frame for your subject too.  Wink

When I did the winter shoot for the WLT last February, the brook was frozen in places and it was absolutely spectacular; ice encrusted tree roots, heavy frozen cascades, thin delicate ice sheets. Truly breathtaking! I spent quite a bit of time photographing it. And, in case Bernard is reading this and wondering, yes, I did use a tripod.   Grin

As for down here, we don't get that kind of effect very often.  Cry  So seeing it there was very special.
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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2007, 03:35:35 AM »

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in case Bernard is reading this and wondering, yes, I did use a tripod.


One would think an advantage of DSLRs is the possibility do work without a tripod in daylight Tongue

As I said earlier, Mike's great results inspired me to revisit a few pics. The images themselves do not even come close to the beautiful waterfalls Mike seems to find each two steps, but tell me if you like what monochrome does to the images. I used plain Nikon Editor, turned the pics to sepia or B&W, and for the latter I then played with the RGB levels to bring out more warmth.

Monochrome
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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2007, 04:21:27 AM »

I think the conversions work Bernard but the high contrast on the waterfalls (sunny / shaded) takes away from the images, at least for me. I really like the one of the jetty (5327bw2) but the one with the pond and reflection is super.

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The dslr works fine handheld in daylight for birds, bugs and various flora but when I'm doing landscape I try to avoid "daylight". Wink I prefer (early) morning, (late) evening or overcast days and usually need that tripod 'cause my hands ain't as steady as the once were with the slower shutter speeds. Cheesy
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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2007, 04:58:12 AM »

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Ah young Grasshopper, you are forgetting about the need for a tripod when shooting in daylight at slow shutterspeeds (used to increase that blur softness in moving water) with fine apertures (for greater DOF) .... and, when using a very fine aperture at very close range without a flash (macro-like work again with deep DOF). Grin
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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2007, 05:57:33 AM »

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I graduated! Wink

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you are forgetting about the need for a tripod when shooting in daylight at slow shutterspeeds (used to increase that blur softness in moving water) with fine apertures (for greater DOF) .... and, when using a very fine aperture at very close range without a flash (macro-like work again with deep DOF).


True, for whaterfalls anyone needs a tripod, or rock-hard hands. It's also true that dawn and duk might call for a tripod. I just often shoot landscapes while hicking, capturing landscapes as I walk, and that's usually done by daylight. Less dramatic, but more convenient...
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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2007, 12:41:41 PM »

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I graduated! Wink

That's right, you did! Well, I'll just have to come up with another name for ya.  Grin Wink

Now Mike, I've got a bw sample of the lighthouse image for ya but, silly me, I don't remember how to insert it. Duh!! Tongue  Clicking "insert image" does nothing for me. Am I too far gone? Do you think you can teach me?  Grin

EDIT: I'll just email it to  ya ........
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« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2007, 01:12:42 PM »

WOW, you really pulled that cloud out. Shocked I've tried a buncha different conversions and couldn't pull that off. I guess I too am no more than a grasshopper... Cool  Hmmmn, grasshopper Huh time for self portraits maybe? Tongue Now where did I put that macro lens...


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Once you've got the image online somewhere just paste in the url and put ["img"]url["/img"] tags around it.   Wink No quotes, I put them in so you could see the tags.
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